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M`I 5-Pers ecution . w hy t he securi ty se rvices?
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e***@lycos.com
2008-01-02 09:23:18 UTC
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You may. ask, why do I think the "they" referred to are the security
services? Is there any evidence that there is a single. source, as opposed
to a loosely based "whispering campaign" amongst many people?. Even if there
is a single source, is there any. evidence that "they" are professional
"buggers" as opposed to amateurs, or. perhaps people working for a privately
funded. organization?

a) As to the question of a single source versus something. more fragmented;
it is quite obvious. that there is a single source from the way the campaign
has been carried. out. Since things have been repeated verbatim which were
said in my home, there. must be one group which does the watching and
listening. Since on several occasions (mainly during. travel) people have
been planted in close proximity and. rehearsed in what they were to say, it
follows that someone must have. done the planning for that, and again a
single source is. indicated.

b) So why. couldn't it be amateurs? Why couldn't it be a private
organisation, for example a private detective agency paid. to manage the
campaign and undertake the. technical aspects? Some detective agencies are
unscrupulous as has been proved on the occasions in the. past when they've
been exposed or caught; they too can. have access to the bugging technology
deployed; and there are reported cases of MI5. paying private eyes to do
their dirty work (against peace campaigners and. similar enemies of the
state) on the understanding that if. they were caught then they could deny
all knowledge. Why. couldn't that be the case?

The main factor pointing to direct. security service involvement (as opposed
to amateurs or MI5 proxies). is the breadth of their access to the media in
particular, and. the fact that the television companies are so involved in
the campaign. The BBC would. not directly invade someone's home themselves,
since it would not. be within their remit to allocate personnel or financial
resources. to do so. An organisation of their stature would not take part in
a campaign set up by private. sources. The only people they would take
material. from would be the security services, presumably on the assumption
that if the cat ever flew out of the bag yowling it. would be MI5 who would
take. the consequences.

State sponsorship. for these acts of psychological terrorism is also
indicated by duration; support for over six years. for a team of three or
four people would be beyond the means and will of most private. sources.
The viciousness of the slanders. and personal denigration also points to
MI5; they traditionally "protect" the British. state from politicians of the
wrong. hue by character assassination, and in this case are using their
tried and tested methods. to murder with words an enemy they have invented
for. themselves.

And there are precedents. Diana and. Hewitt were alleged to have been filmed
"at it" by an Army intelligence team which. had operated in Northern
Ireland, these allegations were made by. someone called Jones who had been
on the team. His statements were denied by the defence. establishment who
tried to character-assassinate by describing him. as the "Jones twins".
Funny how if you tell. the truth, then you must be ill, isn't it? Thought
only communists behaved like. that?

Hewitt later said that he'd been spoken. to by someone in the army who
revealed the existence of videotapes of him and Diana, and. that the tapes
would be published if any attempt was. made by them to resume their
association.

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Bob
2008-01-03 00:32:37 UTC
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Do the balls in your eyes interpretations of what slip out of thesockets
several years jail if caught when your mother's tity falls off in many
cases years ago.
Do the balls in your eyes interpretations of what slip out of thesockets
several years jail if caught when your mother's tity falls off in many
cases years ago.
Do the balls in your eyes interpretations of what slip out of thesockets
several years jail if caught when your mother's tity falls off in many
cases years ago.
Do the balls in your eyes interpretations of what slip out of thesockets
several years jail if caught when your mother's tity falls off in many
cases years ago.
Do the balls in your eyes interpretations of what slip out of thesockets
several years jail if caught when your mother's tity falls off in many
cases years ago.
Do the balls in your eyes interpretations of what slip out of thesockets
several years jail if caught when your mother's tity falls off in many
cases years ago.
Do the balls in your eyes interpretations of what slip out of thesockets
several years jail if caught when your mother's tity falls off in many
cases years ago.
Do the balls in your eyes interpretations of what slip out of thesockets
several years jail if caught when your mother's tity falls off in many
cases years ago.
Do the balls in your eyes interpretations of what slip out of thesockets
several years jail if caught when your mother's tity falls off in many
cases years ago.
Do the balls in your eyes interpretations of what slip out of thesockets
several years jail if caught when your mother's tity falls off in many
cases years ago.
Do the balls in your eyes interpretations of what slip out of thesockets
several years jail if caught when your mother's tity falls off in many
cases years ago.
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You may. ask, why do I think the "they" referred to are the security
services? Is there any evidence that there is a single. source, as opposed
to a loosely based "whispering campaign" amongst many people?. Even if there
is a single source, is there any. evidence that "they" are professional
"buggers" as opposed to amateurs, or. perhaps people working for a privately
funded. organization?
a) As to the question of a single source versus something. more fragmented;
it is quite obvious. that there is a single source from the way the campaign
has been carried. out. Since things have been repeated verbatim which were
said in my home, there. must be one group which does the watching and
listening. Since on several occasions (mainly during. travel) people have
been planted in close proximity and. rehearsed in what they were to say, it
follows that someone must have. done the planning for that, and again a
single source is. indicated.
b) So why. couldn't it be amateurs? Why couldn't it be a private
organisation, for example a private detective agency paid. to manage the
campaign and undertake the. technical aspects? Some detective agencies are
unscrupulous as has been proved on the occasions in the. past when they've
been exposed or caught; they too can. have access to the bugging technology
deployed; and there are reported cases of MI5. paying private eyes to do
their dirty work (against peace campaigners and. similar enemies of the
state) on the understanding that if. they were caught then they could deny
all knowledge. Why. couldn't that be the case?
The main factor pointing to direct. security service involvement (as opposed
to amateurs or MI5 proxies). is the breadth of their access to the media in
particular, and. the fact that the television companies are so involved in
the campaign. The BBC would. not directly invade someone's home themselves,
since it would not. be within their remit to allocate personnel or financial
resources. to do so. An organisation of their stature would not take part in
a campaign set up by private. sources. The only people they would take
material. from would be the security services, presumably on the assumption
that if the cat ever flew out of the bag yowling it. would be MI5 who would
take. the consequences.
State sponsorship. for these acts of psychological terrorism is also
indicated by duration; support for over six years. for a team of three or
four people would be beyond the means and will of most private. sources.
The viciousness of the slanders. and personal denigration also points to
MI5; they traditionally "protect" the British. state from politicians of the
wrong. hue by character assassination, and in this case are using their
tried and tested methods. to murder with words an enemy they have invented
for. themselves.
And there are precedents. Diana and. Hewitt were alleged to have been filmed
"at it" by an Army intelligence team which. had operated in Northern
Ireland, these allegations were made by. someone called Jones who had been
on the team. His statements were denied by the defence. establishment who
tried to character-assassinate by describing him. as the "Jones twins".
Funny how if you tell. the truth, then you must be ill, isn't it? Thought
only communists behaved like. that?
Hewitt later said that he'd been spoken. to by someone in the army who
revealed the existence of videotapes of him and Diana, and. that the tapes
would be published if any attempt was. made by them to resume their
association.
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Simone
2008-01-07 01:46:48 UTC
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Piss off Prick!
Post by e***@lycos.com
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You may. ask, why do I think the "they" referred to are the security
services? Is there any evidence that there is a single. source, as opposed
to a loosely based "whispering campaign" amongst many people?. Even if there
is a single source, is there any. evidence that "they" are professional
"buggers" as opposed to amateurs, or. perhaps people working for a privately
funded. organization?
a) As to the question of a single source versus something. more fragmented;
it is quite obvious. that there is a single source from the way the campaign
has been carried. out. Since things have been repeated verbatim which were
said in my home, there. must be one group which does the watching and
listening. Since on several occasions (mainly during. travel) people have
been planted in close proximity and. rehearsed in what they were to say, it
follows that someone must have. done the planning for that, and again a
single source is. indicated.
b) So why. couldn't it be amateurs? Why couldn't it be a private
organisation, for example a private detective agency paid. to manage the
campaign and undertake the. technical aspects? Some detective agencies are
unscrupulous as has been proved on the occasions in the. past when they've
been exposed or caught; they too can. have access to the bugging technology
deployed; and there are reported cases of MI5. paying private eyes to do
their dirty work (against peace campaigners and. similar enemies of the
state) on the understanding that if. they were caught then they could deny
all knowledge. Why. couldn't that be the case?
The main factor pointing to direct. security service involvement (as opposed
to amateurs or MI5 proxies). is the breadth of their access to the media in
particular, and. the fact that the television companies are so involved in
the campaign. The BBC would. not directly invade someone's home themselves,
since it would not. be within their remit to allocate personnel or financial
resources. to do so. An organisation of their stature would not take part in
a campaign set up by private. sources. The only people they would take
material. from would be the security services, presumably on the assumption
that if the cat ever flew out of the bag yowling it. would be MI5 who would
take. the consequences.
State sponsorship. for these acts of psychological terrorism is also
indicated by duration; support for over six years. for a team of three or
four people would be beyond the means and will of most private. sources.
The viciousness of the slanders. and personal denigration also points to
MI5; they traditionally "protect" the British. state from politicians of the
wrong. hue by character assassination, and in this case are using their
tried and tested methods. to murder with words an enemy they have invented
for. themselves.
And there are precedents. Diana and. Hewitt were alleged to have been filmed
"at it" by an Army intelligence team which. had operated in Northern
Ireland, these allegations were made by. someone called Jones who had been
on the team. His statements were denied by the defence. establishment who
tried to character-assassinate by describing him. as the "Jones twins".
Funny how if you tell. the truth, then you must be ill, isn't it? Thought
only communists behaved like. that?
Hewitt later said that he'd been spoken. to by someone in the army who
revealed the existence of videotapes of him and Diana, and. that the tapes
would be published if any attempt was. made by them to resume their
association.
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